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		<title>By: virtualizedfuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>virtualizedfuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 10:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate your contribution Leo, but it seems you had missed the point of the article. If you are taking backup with vRanger over lan then Quiescing is diabled by default and you really have to do nothing with vRanger to establish a crash-conistent database backup in that matter. Double take is actually offering the same of vRanger over LAN backup &amp; more than likely they have Quiescing disabled by default which give you a crash-consistent image backup. I am not sure if Double Take is offering VSS integration as vRanger are offering for database machines which give you a transactionally consistent backup image which is a lot better than a crash-consistent image. 

In addition, although its a good idea to disable Quiescing for database server to avoid problems, it would be better to consider enabling it for VMs which does not run databases to get a better consistency. I am sure double take had implemented away to enable &amp; disable that as needed &amp; might even automanted that.

Though this get more relevant when you interact with VCB. As vRanger offer the ability to backup VM images using VCB which provide you with a LAN-free backup, then you will have to interact with the VMware filesystem sync driver. Though as Double Take does not offer VCB integration &amp; LAN-Free backup this part of the article is irrelevant. Although of the extra work required to integrate vRanger with VCB, it get to be a nice feature with an enterprise environment with a large amount of data.

Furthermore, the problem with Quiescing is not vRanger problem, but a &quot;filesystem sync driver&quot; problem which is a part of the VMware tools. Please note understanding when to use Quiescing &amp; VSS as explained in the article is very important when backing up Virtual Machines using any backup solution. As the problem does not always occur &amp; the backup software will not alert you to any problem when you backup, the problem only will be detected when trying to restore. In the database restore case, you might end up restoring a consistent file, but inconsistent database. I hope that help a bit clearing it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate your contribution Leo, but it seems you had missed the point of the article. If you are taking backup with vRanger over lan then Quiescing is diabled by default and you really have to do nothing with vRanger to establish a crash-conistent database backup in that matter. Double take is actually offering the same of vRanger over LAN backup &amp; more than likely they have Quiescing disabled by default which give you a crash-consistent image backup. I am not sure if Double Take is offering VSS integration as vRanger are offering for database machines which give you a transactionally consistent backup image which is a lot better than a crash-consistent image. </p>
<p>In addition, although its a good idea to disable Quiescing for database server to avoid problems, it would be better to consider enabling it for VMs which does not run databases to get a better consistency. I am sure double take had implemented away to enable &amp; disable that as needed &amp; might even automanted that.</p>
<p>Though this get more relevant when you interact with VCB. As vRanger offer the ability to backup VM images using VCB which provide you with a LAN-free backup, then you will have to interact with the VMware filesystem sync driver. Though as Double Take does not offer VCB integration &amp; LAN-Free backup this part of the article is irrelevant. Although of the extra work required to integrate vRanger with VCB, it get to be a nice feature with an enterprise environment with a large amount of data.</p>
<p>Furthermore, the problem with Quiescing is not vRanger problem, but a &#8220;filesystem sync driver&#8221; problem which is a part of the VMware tools. Please note understanding when to use Quiescing &#038; VSS as explained in the article is very important when backing up Virtual Machines using any backup solution. As the problem does not always occur &#038; the backup software will not alert you to any problem when you backup, the problem only will be detected when trying to restore. In the database restore case, you might end up restoring a consistent file, but inconsistent database. I hope that help a bit clearing it up.</p>
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		<title>By: Leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 22:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better Double-Take to have a hot consistency backup with DBs. No need to stop Quiescing.</description>
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		<title>By: ESXRanger Quiescing &#38; VSS Best Practice e-book</title>
		<link>http://www.virtualizationteam.com/vizioncore/vranger/vizioncore-vranger-quiescing-vss-recommended-settings.html/comment-page-1#comment-576</link>
		<dc:creator>ESXRanger Quiescing &#38; VSS Best Practice e-book</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 14:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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